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DID I HAVE THE WORST BMW Z3 EVER MADE ??
2000 BMW Z-3 VIN 4USCH9349YLF86018
2000 BMW Z-3 SHOP RECORDS VIN 4USCH9349YLF86018
5/04/2000 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS82597
1.) CAR BUCKING, RUNNING ROUGH, TRYING TO STALL, ENGINE LIGHTS: ABS & DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL
TAYLOR COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEM, Z-3 CONTINUED TO ACT UP
2.) LOUD RATTLE IN DASHBOARD WHEN THE TEMPERATURE IS BELOW 70 DEGREES FROM BOTH SIDES NEAR OUTSIDE VENTS.
NEVER FOUND STILL RATTLING
3.) WATER LEAK ON DRIVER’S AND PASSENGER'S DOOR.
TAYLOR RESEALED WINDOWS, BUT STILL LEAKING
4.) STRING ON TOP COMING UNDONE, BOTH SIDES.
FIXED
5.) RADIO CUTTING IN AND OUT ON BACK LEFT CHANNEL.
TAYLOR ORDERED A NEW RADIO.
6.) ENGINE SOUNDS ROUGH STANDING OUTSIDE Z-3. WATER PUMP AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR?
TAYLOR COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEM, NOISE CONTINUED
5/15/2000 CRITZ BMW INVOICE BMCS177933
1.) CAR BUCKING, RUNNING ROUGH, TRYING TO STALL: ENGINE LIGHT ABS & ROUGH, TRYING TO STALL, ENGINE LIGHTS : ABS & DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL.
CRITZ REPLACED THE COMPLETE THROTTLE ASSEMBLY, WHICH SEEMED TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM.
5/24/2000 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS83218
1.) WATER LEAK ABOVE DRIVERS WINDOWS AGAIN.
TAYLOR ORDERED DRIVER DOOR PART, AFTER PART CAME IN PASSENGER’S DOOR WAS LEAKING AGAIN. I WAS WAITING TO HEAR WHEN THE SECOND SEAL WOULD BE IN AND TAYLOR SENT BACK THE DRIVERS DOOR SEAL. NO REPAIRS STILL LEAKING
2.) REPLACED RADIO
DID NOT FIX THE PROBLEM LEFT BACK CHANNEL STILL CUTS IN & OUT TO THIS DAY!
3.) ENGINE STILL MAKING ROUGH NOISES OUTSIDE CAR: WATER PUMP? A/C?
TAYLOR COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEM, NOISE STILL CONTINUES TO THIS DAY.
4.) MENTIONED THE RATTLING DASHBOARD
AGAIN TAYLOR DID NOT FIND A PROBLEM.
AUGUST 2000. I STOPPED IN TO CRITZ CONCERNING VIBRATION IN THE BACK WHEELS BEFORE GOING TO THE BMW 2000 HOME COMING. IT WAS NOT WRITTEN UP ON A INVOICE. CHECKED ALL TIRES. THEY SUSPECT A BAD AXIL. BUT I HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT PROBLEM SINCE. IT STILL VIBRATES EVEN WITH BRAND NEW TIRES INSTALLED.
8/31/2000 STOPPED OFF AT TAYLOR TO REPORT DOOR LOCK PROBLEM TRAPPING US IN THE CAR, ROOF STILL LEAKING, RADIO STILL ACTING UP, RATTLING DASHBOARD ON THE WAY TO BMW Z-3 HOMECOMING. TAYLOR SAID MANY OF THE PROBLEMS SHOULD BE CORRECTED AT THE CLINIC
9/02/2000 1:30pm TECHNICAL CLINIC TENT AREA 4# BMW PLANT
1.) WATER LEAK
BMW TECHNICIAN RAISED THE WINDOW ADJUSTMENT BUT IT DID NOT STOP THE LEAKS.
2.) DOOR LOCK PROBLEM: LOCKING PASSENGERS IN CAR ONLY WAY OUT USING A KEY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR REQUIRING A WINDOW TO BE ROLLED DOWN, KEY TAKEN OUT OF THE IGNITION THEN REACHING OUTSIDE THE DOOR AND UNLOCKING
BMW TECHNICIANS SAID THEY HAD NOT SEEN THIS PROBLEM IN ALMOST 2 YEARS. THEY SAID IT WAS EITHER A DEFECTIVE COMPUTER MODULE OR DEFECTIVE WIRING HARNESS IN THIS 2000 Z-3. THEY WORKED ON THIS CAR FOR OVER 2 HOURS, WHILE AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE ASKED ME WHAT WAS WRONG AND THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I TOLD THEM. THE BMW REPRESENTATIVE DID NOT WANT ME TO LEAVE DUE TO THE EXTREME SAFETY PROBLEM, BUT THEY COULD NOT FIX IT AT THIS CLINIC. THEY SAID I WOULD BE CONTACTED VERY SOON BY BMW REPRESENTATIVES TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. MY DATE WAS VERY IRRITATED WHILE HAVING TO SIT OVER 2 HOURS WHILE BMW TRIED TO WORK ON MY Z-3
3.) RADIO PROBLEM
BMW TECHNICIANS NEVER HAD A CHANGE TO LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM.
4.) FOG LIGHTS WILL NOT TURN OFF WITH ALL SWITCHES OFF & KEY OUT OF THE IGNITIONS.
BMW TECHNICIANS NEVER HAD A CHANGE TO LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM.
5.) RATTLING DASH BOARD
BMW TECHNICIANS NEVER HAD A CHANGE TO LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM.
WHILE ON THE BMW GROUNDS, I PICKED UP A SHEET METAL SCREW IN MY BACK LEFT TIRE. MICHELIN REPRESENTATIVES SAID THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING AND TOLD ME TO GO DOWNTOWN GREENVILLE TO A TIRE DEALER? NTC/NTB. I HAD TO SPEND ANOTHER HOUR AND A HALF DOWN THERE GETTING MY TIRE PULLED THEN PLUGGED AND AGAIN MY DATE NOT VERY HAPPY.
9/06/2000 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS86623
WHILE AT THE Z-3 2000 HOMECOMING, MY SERVICE LIGHT POPPED ON. ONE THE WAY HOME, I CALL TAYLOR AND STOPPED BY TO HAVE MY 2000 Z-3 FIRST SERVICE CALL.
I TOLD TAYLOR BMW THAT BMW NORTH AMERICA WOULD BE CONTACTING THEM CONCERNING MY DEFECTIVE DOOR LOCK
WEEKS AND WEEKS WENT BY AND BMW DID NOT CONTACT ME CONCERNING THE DEFECTIVE DOOR LOCKING PROBLEM. I HAD TO DRIVE THIS UNSAFE Z-3 FOR A MONTH BEFORE BMW CONTACTED TAYLOR CONCERNING THIS PROBLEM. THIS WAS ONLY AFTER SEVERAL LETTERS TO KENN SPARKS AT THE BMW PLANT.
10/02/2000 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS87400
1.) DOOR LOCKING PROBLEM
TAYLOR REPLACED THE COMPUTER MODULE. THE DOOR LOCKS IN MY BMW ARE REALLY STILL NOT FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY. WITHIN 24 HOURS OF HAVING THE NEW COMPUTER MODULE INSTALLED. THE DRIVERS SIDE DOOR LOCK WOULD UNLOCK ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME. I HAD TO REACH OVER TO THE PASSENGER'S SIDE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE CAR. AFTER A FEW WEEKS THIS STOPPED ON ITS OWN. NOW IF YOU LOCK AND UNLOCK THE DRIVER'S DOOR LOCKS ABOUT 8-10 TIMES, THE PASSENGER DOOR WILL NOT UNLOCK. ONCE IT GOES INTO THIS MODE, IT IS ABOUT A 40% CHANCE THE PASSENGER DOOR WILL UNLOCK.
2.) PASSENGER'S SEAT COVER TORN FROM SEAT BELT.
BMW ORDERED PART
3.) RATTLE IN DASHBOARD.
ONCE AGAIN TAYLOR COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEM
4.) CLUTCH PEDAL SQUEAKS
I HAD TO PAY $19.00 TO LUBE. IT STARTED SQUEAKING AGAIN WITHIN 2 WEEKS.
5.) SOUND SYSTEM LEFT CHANNEL REAR CUTTING IN & OUT
ONCE AGAIN TAYLOR SAID THEY COULD NOT FIND OR FIX THIS PROBLEM.
6.) WATER LEAK ON BOTH SIDES AROUND WINDOWS.
BMW ORDERED PARTS
7.) FOG LIGHT PROBLEM (LIGHTS WILL NOT TURN OFF)
BMW COULD NOT FIND OR FIX THE PROBLEM.
8.) DRIVER’S SEAT HAS ROCKING MOTION.
THE BMW TECHNICIAN SAID HE WAS GOING TO PULL THE SEAT OUT ON THE NEXT APPOINTMENT SINCE HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON THE PASSENGER'S SEAT. NOTE: THIS WAS NOT WHAT TAYLOR BMW WROTE UP IN THEIR REPORT.**********
10/23/2000 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS88002
1.) REPLACED SEALS AROUND WINDOW.
I AM STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH LEAKS AROUND WINDOWS.
2.) DOOR LOCK PROBLEMS
BMW COULD NOT FIND OR FIX THIS PROBLEM
3.) RATTLE IN DASHBOARD
BMW COULD NOT FIND OR FIX THIS PROBLEM
4.) SOUND SYSTEM LEFT BACK CHANNEL CUTTING IN & OUT
BMW COULD NOT FIND OR FIX THIS PROBLEM
5.) DRIVER SEAT ROCKING MOTION
NOTE THAT THIS BMW TECHNICIAN DID NOT PULL THIS SEAT OUT TO FIND THE PROBLEM AS HE PROMISED TO DO IN MY LAST SERVICE CALL******. YOU WILL SEE HE NOW CLAIMS A ROCKING SEAT IS NORMAL. THIS SEAT DID NOT ROCK FOR 12 MONTHS AND THE PASSENGER'S SEAT STILL DOES NOT ROCK TO THIS DAY.
6.) REPLACED PASSENGER'S SEAT COVER.
SEEMS TO BE OK, BUT NOT AS GOOD AS THE ORIGINAL COVER (A FEW WRINKLES).
7.) BELLS RINGING AFTER LIGHTS ARE OFF & KEY OUT OF THE IGNITION
BMW LUBRICATED KEY SWITCH, BUT IT HAS STARTED ACTING UP AGAIN.
THIS IS THE SAME SERVICE INVOICE WHERE A TAYLOR EMPLOYEE RAN MY 2000 Z-3 INTO A CONCRETE BARRIER SCRATCHING THE SPOILER AND THEN HE ACTING LIKE NOTHING HAD HAPPENED. ALSO FOUND THE DRIVER’S SEAT BELT HOLDER TORN WHICH WAS NOT TORN THE DAY BEFORE. TAYLOR BMW SAID THEY NOTICED THE TORN SEAT BELT HOLDER AS WELL, BUT THEY DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION TO FIX IT.
06/12/01 TAYLOR BMW INVOICE BMCS94823 BMW REP & TEC
1.) BRAKE LIGHTS REPLACE BLOWN LIGHTS
2.) SOUND SYSTEMS CD
STILL HAVING PROBLEMS
3.) WATER LEAKS
STILL LEAKING
4.) RATTLING DASHBOARD AND ROOF
BOTH WERE RATTLING EVEN BEFORE I GOT HOME
5.) BACK UP LIGHTS REPLACED BLOWN RELAY
6.) ENGINE HEATING PROBLEM REPLACED THERMOSTAT
7.) SOUND SYSTEM LEFT CHANNEL
STILL HAVING PROBLEMS
8.) POWER DOOR LOCKS
TRAPPED ME INSIDE THE CAR FOR 3 DAYS STARTING ON THE N.J.TURNPIKE
9.) DRIVER SEAT ROCKING
STILL ROCKS
10.) SEAT BELT RETAINER REPLACED
11.) CLUTCH PEDAL
12.) BUZZING NOISE WHEN PULLING KEY OUT
STILL HAPPENS ON OCCATION
13.) ABS/ASC LIGHT COME ON
HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE.
14.) FOG LIGHT PROBLEMS
BOTH BLEW OUT AGAIN IN NOVA SCOTIA
15.) STEERING NOISE
16.) AC BUTTON WILL NOT LIGHT UP BLOWN BULB
17.) REPAINT DAMAGED SPOILER CAUSED BY TAYLOE EMPLOYEE
02/06/2002 CRITZ INVOICE BMCS200708 BMW REP DOWN
1.) ENGINE SPUTTERING AND DSL LIGHT ON AGAIN REPLACE PARTS
2.) RATTLING DASHBOARD BMW REP. HEARD IT.
STILL RATTLES
3.) LEAKING ROOF
?????????
4.) DOOR LOCKS
NOT FOUND NOT FIXED
5.) RADIO
NOT FOUND NOT FIXED
THERE WERE OTHER PROBLEMS MENTIONED ROCKING SEAT, INTERIOR PROBLEMS WITH LEATHER AND PAINT PEELING OFF AND BAD FIT WHICH WERE NOT WRITTEN UP.
Menu dei Motori
oh thats really hard!!!!! :(
well i drive a 2001 z3 2,2 .. has now 21700 km and i had no problems yet!
dhkeywest
You may think that I have sour grapes, but if you investigate the NHTSA web site, you will find quite a few problems with the Z3 including an air bag going off in the owners face while vacuuming his car and another driver had a small rock hit the lower part of his door setting off the side air bag, both ended up at the hospital. There are other problems as well posted on that site.
Then there is the bmwlemon.com web site as well which speaks for itself.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/
http://bmwlemon.com/
Menu dei Motori
thanks for the links!!!!!!!
i´ll take a look
and for what does NHTSA stand for?
dhkeywest
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
It is a very confusing web site. You will go around and around looking for the information. It took me 2 days to figure it out.
ODI ID: 801463 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 1996
Incident: Yes
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Date of Failure: 08/10/1996
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
Summary: CONSUMER REARENDED SOMONE AND BOTH AIR BAG DIDN'T DEPLOY . PLEASE DESCRIBE . *AK
Check to order research. Submit below. ODI ID: 835884 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 1996
Incident: Yes
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 12/29/1998
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL
Summary: HAD A HEAD-ON COLLISION AND AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. DRIVER SUSTAINED SOME INJURIES. *AK
Check to order research. Submit below. ODI ID: 835884 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 1996
Incident: Yes
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 12/29/1998
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
Summary: HAD A HEAD-ON COLLISION AND AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. DRIVER SUSTAINED SOME INJURIES. *AK
ODI ID: 780655 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 1997
Incident: No
Fire: Yes
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 09/01/1998
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSIVE RESTRAINT:AIR BAG:SIDE DOOR:DRIVER
Summary: AFTER VEHICLE WAS VACUUMED IT WOULD NOT START; THE VEHICLE WAS PUSHED TO THE SIDE AND THE DRIVER TURNED THE KEY AGAIN TO START IT, AND A PUFF OF SMOKE CAME FROM THE STEERING COLUMN. THE DRIVER QUICKLY TRIED TO TURN THE KEY TO THE OFF POSITION,THEN THE LIGHTS DIMMED. THE KEY BECAME IMMOVABLE IN THE START POSITION, AND SMOKE BEGAN TO POUR FROM ALL THE VENTS. STUNNED, THE DRIVER OPENED THE DOOR TO RUN FROM THE VEHICLE, BUT THE AIR BAG DEPLOYED AND KNOCKED THE DRIVER UNCONSCIOUS. THE DRIVER WAS PULLED FROM THE VEHICLE AND REVIVED IN TIME TO GET THE NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL DISCONNECTED. EMS ATTENDED TO THE DRIVER'S INJURIES.
ODI ID: 745500 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 2000
Incident: Yes
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 05/15/2001
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL:DRIVER
Summary: AIR BAG DEPLOYED WHEN AUTOMOBILE STRUCK AN OBJECT UNDER THE CAR WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS TRAVELING APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES PER HOUR, INJURING THE DRIVER. *AK
ODI ID: 764970 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 2000
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 07/29/2002
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSIVE RESTRAINT:AIR BAG:SIDE DOOR:DRIVER
Summary: DRIVERS SIDE AIR BAG DEPLOYED WHEN A BOUNCING ROCK STRUCK UNDER THE CAR, THE VEHICLE WAS TRAVELING APPROXIMATELY 30 MPH, INJURING THE DRIVER. *AK
Check to order research. Submit below. ODI ID: 767390 Make: BMW Model: Z3 Year: 2000
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 1
Date of Failure: 06/21/2001
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSIVE RESTRAINT:AIR BAG:SIDE DOOR:DRIVER
Summary: A ROCK WENT BOUNCED UP UNDER THE CAR AND SET OFF THE DRIVERS SIDE AIRBAG. THE AIRBAG BRUISED THE DRIVERS ARM AND RIBS. THE CAR SWERVE ONTO THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD DUE TO THE AIRBAG FORCING THE DRIVER TO THE RIGHT, BUT THE CAR DID NOT LEAVE THE ROAD WAY. DUE TO THE COST OF THE REPLACING THE SYSTEM, WE WERE FORCED TO SUBMIT AN INSURANCE CLAIM WHICH THUS RAISED OUR INSURANCE PREMIUM.
There is a lot of other problems posted as well. Have fun reading
gemballa
you should sell that car!!!!!1
Menu dei Motori
omg horrible
lowridder11
How many miles does your Z3 have? Mine has almost 50,000miles on it also a 2000 model and I just got it back from the body shop. It seems the check engine light is coming on more and more often and i have to change the oil more often now. But I have to stick with this car for another 2-3 years till' i have enough money to buy a Z4 6speed MT 3.0
So in the summer i am putting in a Alpine stereo system in the trunk which i'm buying from Circut City for about $1,000. If I have to keep this car of anoth 3 years I might as well enjoy it!:bandit:
Menu dei Motori
well i also have a problem with my oil!
the engine needs so much!
it has now 25000 km and i bought it with 5000
in 20000km i put in 6 litres of engine oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
without oilchange!!!!!!!!!
at the dealer they say it´s still normal
arghhghghg
lowridder11
I don't care what the dealer says. My Z3 is going down the crapper!
Menu dei Motori
yea...
i don´t mind also
it´s leased and n some month it will have another owner...
then i drive z4 :flash:
lowridder11
I have to wait another year or so until i can pay down the loan i took out so i could by this car. It was about $40,000. I owe about $25,000. So I might as well instal a Alpine CD player for the time being cause' my Z3 right now doesn't have a CD player.
Menu dei Motori
yea a cd player is important.
i go with the harmann kardon sound system. it´s not the best but enough!
lowridder11
Imagine an Alpine trunk mounted Cd player, blasting through the Harman Kardon subwoofer inbetween the 2 seats.:flash:
WaNk
I have an '01...now understand I've added some mods...but I havent had a problem
Menu dei Motori
what about oil?
didn´t you even have probs with that?
lowridder11
how many miles, and what mods?
WaNk
I dont have a prob wit anything....Its practically completely rebuilt so that could be why
epj3
If you could, dhkeywest, come to www.bmwchannel.com, sign up, and tell your story there. Also go to www.bmwboard.com
njjk
Wow, I feel for the poor guy who got stuck with a lemon !! Sounds like you need to get a lawyer and go after that dealership !! Time to use the lemon law.
NJJK
Stone W
The thread title caught my attention, so I read the posts.
I bought my 2.8L in Jan 1998. In 6 years, I have had 2 problems: (1) Window motor adjustment (fixed under warranty), and (2) Rear window cracked after 5 years (replaced by me).
Did I get lucky?
Stone
needhelptd
If you read my thread "Help" you will see my latest issue... engine replacement at 38000 miles! Kidding?
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